The Times and Sunday Times‘s highly anticipated paywall starts properly today. Murdoch is going into the wilderness, charging £1 a day or £2 a week for access. The rest of print media meanwhile, watches from a safe distance to see whether The Times will come out alive, except Krishnan Guru-Murthy, who’s vowing never to subscribe to the tetchy iPad app again.

Guru-Murthy is one of a bunch of folk having trouble with the iPad app, which is reportedly crashing, even after updates. The app costs £10 a month on top of the website fee.

The Times and Sunday Times have introductory offers of £1 per week month for the moment, and the iPad will be charged separately. In the interim, users have had to register. The results of this have been that the Telegraph has picked up some of the downstream traffic, and users spend less time on The Times site, although this will have been affected by people choosing not to register.

The sites have been criticised for looking a bit like a newspaper on your screen, a definite regression for online media, so it’ll be interesting to watch how many pick it up, and how many move on.

It’s worth remembering though, that Murdoch might not need to monetise much of his audience to make The Times website profitable, and might be able to stand losing around 80% of The Times and Sunday Times’s online readership. It’s a conflict of principles – what’s more important, profits or readers?

  • Chris

    Just read the Guardian… It's infinitely better than the Times and the website is free!

  • RobHWales

    I havent tried the iPad Times app for a couple of reasons. Firstly, the reviews on iTunes are dreadful with lots of crashes and it doesnt include some sections (including the Saturday Magazine(?) – which for a visual gadget like the iPad seems crazy) nor does it include the Sunday Times ????

    I'm ok with the new website (although the use of GIF's for the section bar means that if you zoom the section bar blurs?? and they have tweaked the overall format during the trial) but I think the Sunday Times website is a better design.

    But even though I'd consider paying, why would I pay twice? – Web and iPad – they should offer a single subscription that makes all content available on all platforms.

    I also read the Guardian website and the Telegraph (although their iPhone app has gone pop since the iOS4 upgrade) but neither have iPad apps yet

  • Peteste

    Hang on, so with the iPad app and subscription you''re paying more for the electronic version (that costs virtually nothing zero to distribute) than the paper version? Am I missing something here? Anyway, watch their marketshare plunge when you can no longer Google them…

  • Robert1881

    great newspaper, lovely websites and app, they live up to their slogan 'the (Sunday) Times is the (Sunday) paper'
    You can't expect this type of quality journalism for free, the Metro is good but don't let it change your perceptions

  • novak84

    I never read the times before i started to read the content on the web. It started to be my online newspaper of choice, since the announcement of charging for content and the pricing i haven't bothered to visit the site. I am happy to pay for content but this would work so much better if they rework their pricing structure, i would go for this if the price was 4 pounds a month and i am sure many others would.

  • MJ

    I will be very surprised if the main winner out of this online charging (apps/website content) will be the BBC.

    For people on the go (or iPhone), why would you pay £10 a month for what would basically be a quick look at the news on the go, you can get that from the BBC for free.

    No wonder everyone else was ranting and raving when the beeb said they were going to offer apps BBC News iPad app, (available outside the UK but available if you set a US iTunes account up) is really good.

    As others have said, once Google searches stop throwing links up as results I can see their market share plummeting.

    • MJ

      I meant in the first line, I can see the winner being the BBC, not the other way around!

  • http://dorsetvisualguide.co.uk/agpcuk_data.htm Carl Barron

    To me it looks like just another ‘Murdoch Windup’ he knows that advertising revenues will dry up, for who will pay to advertise in a Newspaper with a very limited audience?

    Awhile ago Murdoch was moaning about Google saying they were pinching his News, yet if Google took News Corp out of its register, News Corp might fail to exist online.

    Do us all a Big ,Big favour Murdoch and keep your so-called News, we don’t want it or need it.

    As I said before ‘Cut Your Nose Off to Spite Your Face’ please do.

    Signed Carl Barron Chairman of agpcuk
    http://disqus.com/Carl_Barron/
    http://carl-agpcuk.livejournal.com/

  • New_TheTimes

    We are aware of the problems with the iPad, and we are working 'round the clock to get these fixed as soon as possible for our customers viewing with the iPad.

    I would like to draw attention to the homepage remaining free to view, and there being 10 free stories daily on http://www.timesplus.co.uk, both available to view without registration.

    This article also contains an error – our introductory offer is £1 for 30 days, not just one week.

    RobHWales, we are pleased you like the new sites. This is just the start. We will continue to add features and functionality to make the sites reflect the very best of Times journalism.

  • Sphnz

    Why would I want to pay for news? There is a whole planet full of online news paper's, Tv news, news forum's, youtube event's, news blog's… all of which are free.
    And a internet search will find anything going on in the world. We no longer need to pay the monolithic news corporations to tell us what is happening… or what to think.

  • Bloozy frog

    I tend to think the times app isn't the only app having a problem wired also is crashing… Looking into it further you should all try downloading an iPad system monitor and look at how badly the iPad handles memory… Basically unless you reboot the iPad regularly then it will eat it's own memory. So apps like the times and wired will always struggle as they are using memory that often is not there. Amazing really every one is blaming the publications when the devices are the problem… Apples PR dept must be in dream land!!

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