Gran-Turismo-5Gran Turismo’s Sony PS3 developers, Polyphony Digital, paid a back-handed compliment to its rivals on the Forza 3, Microsoft Xbox 360 developer team at Turn 10. Turn 10′s official company blog reveals that at E3, Gran Turismo’s creators: “came by to personally get hands-on with Forza 3, all the while taking careful notes, examining our user-interface, shooting photos, and asking us some pretty interesting questions.” Turn 10′s blog continues to return, well it’s not exactly a compliment…

The Turn 10 Studios blog continues: “Polyphony Digital aren’t generally known as a studio to acknowledge that there are racing games that exist beyond their own. Which could explain why the Gran Turismo franchise has been so stagnant in the racing genre since GT3.” Take that in the chops Gran Turismo. Your rivals just called you “stagnant”!

So, will Gran Turismo 5 be lacking in innovation? Or has Forza already paid Gran Turismo the highest back-handed compliment by copying so heavily from it? In school playground parlance… “fight, fight, fight”.

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  • MetalMickey

    Anyone else see this for the lame damage limitation it is?

    Turn10 have already let rip how gimped the game is going to be. It’s got static lighting, static weather, it comes on 2x DVD’s one with the game, the other with tracks and cars.

    This last point means two things.

    1/owners will have to install the tracks and cars.

    2/12m Xbox 360′s without a HDD will not be able to play this game.

    Tell me again how the entry level 360 is not gimped. There is now a building list of games it can’t play. Microsoft have made a abortion of their console this gaming generation, not only with the massive reliability issues, but with the split userbase, some consoles not having a HDD, meaning most games will never use the HDD in the console that DO have it, and increasingly more common now, a game that needs a HDD and simply is not compatible with many 360 models.

  • MarkG

    Gran Turismo will wipe the floor with Forza series. It always has done, it always will do.

    The fact the new GT5 has damage means it’s the complete deal. And with the PS3′s 50GB of Blu-Ray, it bound to have better car models, more cars, more tracks.

  • http://www.gravatar.com Simon Munk

    MetalMickey, I think you make several dubious points there:
    1. Where have you seen static lighting or static weather? Genuinely curious, as a quick google seems to indicate the opposite.
    2. Again, where have you seen that 360 owners will “have” to install the extra disc content? It appears that installing will simply cut out any disc swapping, from what I can see.

  • the all seeing

    Mark My Words.

    GT5 will hammer every other driving game into the ground – period.

    Make no mistake – Gran Turismo is the best driving game in the world.

    I should know I own practically every driving game out the 360/ps3/ps2/xbox/dreamcast [yeah i even own MSR - projects mother]

    GT5 will be amazing…….

  • taketwodown

    turismo – ha its the best racer ever – Forza is boring and feels like a cheap imitation of the japp giant.

    go away forza and stick to the ginger tools that play 360 – u dnnt deserve to be in the same sentence let alone compared with any Gran Turismo.

    GT5 will be a masterpiece

  • DRIVINGISME

    Forza 3 – 8/10
    GT5 – 10/10

    I bet ya this will be the score

    like forza
    love gt

  • MarkG

    @Simon I would to see you explain how Forza3 will work, when the developers have already stated that the game comes on disk 1, and the tracks and cars come on disk 2…

    There is no other way to do it, other than install one or the other, which rules out 50% of the Xbox userbase..

  • MetalMickey

    Turd10 must be hoping that cheap PR stunts like this might sell a few more copies of their GT Wannabe game.

    Forza will always be a pale imitation of the GranTurismo series. Always has been, always will be.

    Infact, even if Forza3 was 100x better it would still be a poor-mans GT…

  • http://www.gravatar.com Simon Munk

    Mark, firstly I can’t find the devs saying what you think they say. I think they’re saying that some of the cars and tracks will have to go on a second disc. Secondly, even if you’re right, you simply insert game disc, load game into memory, then insert the second disc to load in the track you want to play. Different modes and different cars and tracks will obv. mean a lot of pain in the backside disc-swapping, but perfectly doable, I’d assume, technically.

  • ss the destroyer

    gt all all day

    forza is simply a bag of shat. period. handling, sound, looks all loosely based on cars but no passion, no feel.

    typical of ms titles really – in it for the wrong reasons.

    Long live GT – The Daddy of all racing games!

  • jeremy Kyle

    Simon Munk, you ok sunshine, come see ya dad…..

    **taps my shoulder**

    come on – let it all out, dont be ashamed – we all cry when we realise our choice is the inferior one.

    ha ha ha

  • http://www.gravatar.com Simon Munk

    LOL @ Jeremy Kyle!

  • MetalMickey

    http://www.developmag.com/news/32098/Report-360s-DVD-format-falling-behind

    Report: 360’s DVD format falling behind?

    Forza 3 shipping on two discs, questions surround Metal Gear Rising’s capacity, while MS kills off Blu-ray possibilities

    Three and a half years since it launched, the Xbox 360’s modest DVD format is now struggling to keep up with demands of modern game development, and the solution may not be as simple as “put disc 2 in tray”.

    Forza 3 will soon ship on two 360 discs, with one holding the core product and another hosting additional content. However, news site Joystiq reports that, because of the two-disc set-up, not all 360 owners will be able to access all the game’s content.

    At the same time, questions are being placed on whether Metal Gear Rising will be able to fit on a single dual-layer DVD; Kojima once infamously stated that Sony’s Blu-ray format wasn’t big enough to fit in everything MGS4 had to offer.

    Forza 3 developers Turn 10 has confirmed how the full Forza 3 experience will work. The additional content on disc two will be downloaded and stored on the Xbox 360’s hard drive. The game itself will run from the core content on disc one and, as the game is being played, data from the hard drive will be accessed to provide the additional content.

    But the 360’s basic Arcade SKU, of course, doesn’t come with a hard drive; a near-certain indication that 360 Arcade owners will not be able to play the full game.

  • MetalMickey

    Suprised you didn’t bother reporting that news, and preferred to sweep it under the carpet and go with the Turd10-wank-a-thon news instead.

  • dangermau5

    the world is funneling with technology advancements and moving towards bigger and better games.

    Blu Ray is the only way forward. MS are gonna start struggling.

    Sony all the way!

    How cool is JK’s comment lol

  • http://www.gravatar.com Simon Munk

    MetalMickey, sorry to take a while to get back. And thanks for the link. But…
    a) The Develop story is based on a Joystiq story that’s clearly marked as “rumour” and is based on another site, that’s based on another site, that’s based on a speculative survey (that’s since been taken down).
    b) So, if you want to call anyone’s accuracy into question, I’d start pointing the finger at the normally good Develop. The Develop piece reads, IMHO, very partial, opinionated and rumour-based.
    c) The main gist that most sites have gone with is that the core game is stored on one disc, and extra cars/tracks are on the second. And that it will be possible to store content from the second disc onto a hard drive to avoid disc-swapping. Nowhere, apart from the Develop piece (not even the pieces it quotes from), has it been suggested that that implies disc-swapping won’t be an option to those without a hard drive.
    In other words, I think you’re *probably* wrong on static lighting, static weather and that the game won’t work on Arcade 360s without a hard drive.

  • Richard
  • Morris

    Wow.

    How much is polyphony digital paying you fanboys? I certainly HOPE you’re getting paid for how much you’re licking Sony’s pride.

    Yeah Forza 3 is on two discs… BIG F’ING DEAL. GT2 was on two discs, did it stop people from playing it? NO.

    Disc-spanning is not a deal breaker for gaming, as has already been proven for TWO previous generations.

    I’ve played GT all the way up to part 4 on the PS2. Forza 2 is lightyears ahead of GT4 and Prologue in terms of how the car controls. (the important bit for a “driving simulator” as GT contends to be.) I demoed Prologue several times, and I kept HOPING that each time I played it that the controls would get better.

    They don’t. It’s garbage compared to the finesse in Forza.

    And here’s the kicker. Forza 3 takes the physics from the second game even further.

    IMO, you sony fanboys are missing the real deal. You’re letting your fanboyism get the best of you instead of experiencing a truly amazing racing game and community.

  • Morris

    Additional:

    1) Forza 2 didn’t have “static” lighting so why would part 3?
    2) Forza 3 will be playable on Arcade SKU’s, the question comes in how they will access the extra content. Frankly, depending upon the size of this install it could cause the 20 gig 360 owners to swap discs to use this extra content.
    3) For those without either system the question is simple. Which system has a better online community, and which one will my friends be gaming on? 360 2 to 1.

    I only know 2 people with a PS3, and of the multiplatform games they’ve purchased for it, they ALWAYS wish they had purchased the 360 version so they could play with their friends. Most people these days are one console households, and a hardcore gamer is going to choose the 360.

    Why at this point would a gamer choose the PS3? Unless you are a diehard fanboy there is no reason to own one. The same was true of the XBOX and Gamecube last generation.

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